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Re: What is the general opinion for buying access to web sit
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:01 am Reply with quote  
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  Natasha

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There’s nothing wrong with buying an ad on a website that links back to your website. Advertising for your site is certainly good. Advertising it on popular sites where your target market hangs out is even better. After all, the name of the game is to bring in targeted traffic. i think it is a good idea to buy and sell text links..


Angelica wrote:
What is the general opinion for buying, selling access to web sites ! buying text link is good or bad?
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:03 am Reply with quote  
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  Garry

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What are the common methods of link building people use..!?
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:04 am Reply with quote  
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  Nickysemilo

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The common and fair methods of link building according to all search engines would comprise:

1. Someone just naturally linked to your website for various different reasons.
2. You submitted your website to an online directory or similar-type website.
3. You own another website and placed your link on it.
4. You posted comments or an article with a link back to your website.
5. You had a reciprocal link agreement with another website.

Garry wrote:
What are the common methods of link building people use..!?
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 5:30 am Reply with quote  
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  Steve

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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In addition there are some latest methods involved such as:

Forum Posts
Social Bookmarking
Social Media
Guest Posts
Linkbait
Create a WordPress Plugin
Create mini-blogs and link to your main blog
Buying links Smile
Paid Reviews
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 6:40 am Reply with quote  
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  siteadmin
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Good to see the discussing moving strong but I feel we are going a bit off-topic. What is google's stance on buying links when you read the live chat we recorded here

http://www.searchenginegenie.com/seo-blog/2008/03/150-questions-answered-by-google.html

you can understand that google doesnt like paid links and don't mind even penalizing sites for buying or selling links.
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 8:36 am Reply with quote  
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  Natasha

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I think whole idea of paid links being a negative one in my opinion is dumb. How am i then supposed to advertise? The internet is completely built upon links... Thats like cablevision is dropping Fox 5 because they charge money for commercials... Wink
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 9:32 am Reply with quote  
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  Garry

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I agree

But anyhow, what about sections labeled such as 'link exchange' or 'your link here' without any really mentioning about paying service? Does that get penalized?
 PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:01 am Reply with quote  
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  Nickysemilo

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Hi Natasha.. You need to understand that there is a distinct difference in what Google wants and what Google does. The 'adsense' ads are simply "nofollow" based on how they are published. Google was watchful of that and does not penalize sites that using similar techniques for advertising. They allow similar ads / links without any question or penalty... this is where people try to manipulate page rank by selling in-content links.

So it's not ads that Google is against, it's "paid links" particularly if such links are for PR rather then traffic.

Natasha wrote:
What about Google ads? they are by definition called "paid links" but they just name it advertising... Very Happy
 PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 4:09 am Reply with quote  
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  Nickysemilo

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You could read Matt Cutts blog that says Google is capable to even differentiate each and every pages and all links simply through their algo..!


Garry wrote:
I agree

But anyhow, what about sections labeled such as 'link exchange' or 'your link here' without any really mentioning about paying service? Does that get penalized?
 PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:39 pm Reply with quote  
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  siteadmin
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Adsense are in javascript and search engines dont follow javascript. Check google's very own blog they have nofollow on all their external links.
 PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:10 am Reply with quote  
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  Natasha

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Well, i think you need to some smart work... As far as I know there is actually no problem with buying/selling links and you should take care that you are buying too many links!

you could easily get PR3 or PR4 by interlinking your own websites and buying around 10 or 15 links from PR3 websites

But if you buy 200 or 250 links in one month ,you would certainly get noticed by Google and the site would have chances to get penalized!
 PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 10:25 am Reply with quote  
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  siteadmin
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I wouldn't follow natasha if i want to have best reputation with Google. I know many webmasters livelyhood depends on Google. If you are buying links or selling links do it at your own risk. Google will do everything to protect their algorithm from potential spammers and manipulators.
 PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 4:49 am Reply with quote  
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  Steve

Joined: 27 Mar 2008
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Great article siteadmin, but I think google isn't raelly against buying links, Google is trying to put fear in people because if you notice they are now offering text links too, so if everyone is afraid to do it, advertisers have to go directly to the BIG G for the text links


siteadmin wrote:
Hello Steve,

Google's core algorithm is built around pagerank which totally depends on links to rank a website. I am on google's side on this one if people start manipulating results by paid links how can the smaller sites survive. Even if they have quality information still since search engines depend too much on links the resulting sites will not rank. SO its important Google has a strong stance on links,

Did you read the new google guideline on paid links [url] http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=66736 here[/url] it states

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Google and most other search engines use links to determine reputation. A site's ranking in Google search results is partly based on analysis of those sites that link to it. Link-based analysis is an extremely useful way of measuring a site's value, and has greatly improved the quality of web search. Both the quantity and, more importantly, the quality of links count towards this rating.

However, some SEOs and webmasters engage in the practice of buying and selling links that pass PageRank, disregarding the quality of the links, the sources, and the long-term impact it will have on their sites. Buying or selling links that pass PageRank is in violation of Google's webmaster guidelines and can negatively impact a site's ranking in search results.

Not all paid links violate our guidelines. Buying and selling links is a normal part of the economy of the web when done for advertising purposes, and not for manipulation of search results. Links purchased for advertising should be designated as such. This can be done in several ways, such as:

Adding a rel="nofollow" attribute to the <a> tag
Redirecting the links to an intermediate page that is blocked from search engines with a robots.txt file
Google works hard to ensure that it fully discounts links intended to manipulate search engine results, such excessive link exchanges and purchased links that pass PageRank. If you see a site that is buying or selling links that pass PageRank, let us know.We'll use your information to improve our algorithmic detection of such links.

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 PostPosted: Fri Apr 04, 2008 12:44 pm Reply with quote  
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  siteadmin
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Hello Steve,

I wouldn't agree falsely accusing Google. Can you show me some samples where Google is selling text links. Adwords or adsense dont pass link popularity or pagerank. Where else does Google sell links?
 PostPosted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:25 am Reply with quote  
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  Steve

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Alright.. if Google is against link buying/selling, what would you say about TLA - it is still consistently popular and Google has not yet destroyed TLA Why so?
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